Daikin Caldo R R32 kylmäineella

janti

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Vs: Daikin Caldo R R32 kylmäineella

You should use "fireplace logic" with manual fan speed. ;)
http://lampopumput.info/foorumi/index.php/topic,25978.msg341688.html#msg341688
 

puuteknikko

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Vs: Daikin Caldo R R32 kylmäineella

Daikin_ sanoi:
On the other hand if operating in heating mode and room temperature is higher than setpoint, the indoor fan will continue the operation with different speeds depending on the room temperature.
OK, that's what I didn't know. The manual says that when heating is selected and the desired temperature is reached, it will switch to middle-low.

I just rechecked from the manual and it looks like the fireplace function must be switched on for varying air flow. Is it OK to keep it on all the time? The indoor unit is next to the kitchen so it will get warm air also from there. It may not need to use any external source of heat during these temperatures if it just circulates the heat already inside the house.

Also looking at the post in janti's link, for automatic air flow in the fireplace mode, does the fan speed need to be set to Automatic and if I want to set the max speed for varying airflow, I need to have the fan speed set at some fixed value? During these couple of days of testing and adjusting the system to co-operate with my air heating system (warm water flowing through a cell through which the air flows to all the rooms in the house), the Automatic setting only uses very low fan speeds. I've now used setting 3 because it's not louder than what the air heating system already is.
 

Daikin_

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Vs: Daikin Caldo R R32 kylmäineella

The fireplace logic is as follows:
If you choose automatic fan speed, the unit operates in all fan speeds in both heating and fireplace fan operation mode.
If you choose a manual fan speed of f.ex. 3; the unit will operate up to fan speed 3 in both heating and fireplace logic mode. For each degree the temperature in the room is above desired setpoint, the fan will increase the fan speed level. You can activate fireplace logic and if you feel that the airflow is to low in fan only, decrease the setpoint on the remote and the fan will increase the flow.

Best regards Daikin
 

puuteknikko

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Vs: Daikin Caldo R R32 kylmäineella

Daikin_ sanoi:
The fireplace logic is as follows:
If you choose automatic fan speed, the unit operates in all fan speeds in both heating and fireplace fan operation mode.
If you choose a manual fan speed of f.ex. 3; the unit will operate up to fan speed 3 in both heating and fireplace logic mode. For each degree the temperature in the room is above desired setpoint, the fan will increase the fan speed level. You can activate fireplace logic and if you feel that the airflow is to low in fan only, decrease the setpoint on the remote and the fan will increase the flow.

Best regards Daikin
Thank you, it does make sense. What about the fireplace logic, is it automatically switched on when the set temperature is reached or do I need to keep it on all the time to be able to benefit from any external heat source? Also, what's the logic behind the automatic fan speed? It seems that at least in my case the fan speed is probably less than '3' all the time.
 

Daikin_

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Vs: Daikin Caldo R R32 kylmäineella

We get this question quite often: what is the difference between Autofan and manual fan 5.
In Automatic fan the unit is concentrated on supplying the energy in a as quiet operation as possible for the user = sound comfort.
In manual fanspeed the unit operates in the desired fan setting if indoor HEX border temperature is reached. If the compressor reduces the frequency, the fan continues in this setting until critical temperature (cold draft protection activates) and then the fan stops = XR logic.
OR:
Fan operates with desired setting when indoor HEX border temperature is reached. If compressor reduces the frequency, the fan automatically reduces fan speed with one step at a time in order to supply warmer air out of the unit = XRH logic.
Difference between Automatic fan and manual fan in XRH models: Automatic reduces sooner while manual reduces later.

If you set manual operation and fan speed 3 f.ex. then the unit operates only up to 3 and below range (quiet operation included)
/Daikin
 

Daikin_

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Sama Daikinilla: Ruotsissa myydään merkin ensimmäistä oikeasti pohjoiseen suunniteltua ja lastentaudeista softattua Caldo XRH:ta. Meillä Perferaa = Caldo XR myydään epäilemättä vielä monta vuotta. Vähissä on hyvät vaihtoehdot uusissa Ilpeissä.
All units sold in Scandinavia and Finland are XRH versions not XR. (unless someone has big old stock) /D
 

bungle

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How to check If mine is XRH or XR? I bought it february-march 2018.

And is there a company that can upgrade The software of outdoor unit in Finland? And can the outdoor unit be upgraded and leave indoor unit, that needs pcb upgrade, as is?

Suomeksi: löytyykö tästä maasta toimijaa joka voisi softapäivittää ulkoyksikön? Käsittääkseni sisäyksikön piirilevyn päivitys menee kallinpuoleiseksi jos edes mahdollista. Onko päivitetty ulkoyksikkö ja päivittämätön sisäyksikkö yhteensopivia?
 

Heat&Cool

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How to check If mine is XRH or XR? I bought it february-march 2018.
Toisessa viestiketjussa (perfera 30 ja 40) ”daikin” kertoi, että ulkoyksiköt ovat Euroopan varastolta päivitetty maalis-huhtikuun vaihteesta alkaen. Eli sinun Perfera on hankinta-ajankohdan perusteella ilmeisesti XR/optimised heating 4. Marras-joulukuun vaihteessa kysyin Daikinin Suomen sivuliikkeestä ja maahantuojalta (Ahllsell) XHR/optimised heating 4+ malliston saatavuudesta: ei mitään tietoa heillä silloin asiasta. Ahllsellin verkkosivuilla on edelleen varastosaldoa XR Perferasta. Näin se vaan menee, että Suomessa tullaan keskimäärin vuosi perässä Ruotsia merkkiin/malliin katsomatta.
PS. Toisin kuin tuolla perfera 30/40 ketjussa joku arvuutteli niin ulko- ja sisäyksikön mallimerkinnät ovat samat Suomessa myytävissä (Perfera) kuin Ruotsissa myytävissä Caldo XHR nimellä: RXTM 30/40-N & FTXTM 30/40-M
 
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